I uploaded to the local wiki server Jerry's article and updated the link. Like most things, corgi moved or killed those links long ago.

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I really appreciate you going through this tutorial and fixing it up. Apologies for not getting back to you quicker. Been one of those weeks!

So, yes, you need to hold down the keys — or, I think you can also use the damper pedal to hold the note series in the buffer, letting you release the keys (might require a Perf RTP setting, though). I don't have the KARMA software, so everything I can do/try/see/hear is on the M3 only. I do have the KARMA software user guide, which is incredibly helpful in conjunction with the M3's KARMA guide. Anyway, I haven't had a chance yet to go back through the tutorial, but I will as soon as I can, and then if needed edit any mistakes I've made. But definitely glad you've gone through it!

"Does exactly what it says on the tin" is a Britishism (I'm struggling to think of an American equivalent expression at the moment - "works as advertised" maybe?). Not a typo. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Does_exactly_what_it_says_on_the_tin :)

I subsequently brought the progam up in Karma M3 and was able to see it work as you stated, though changing the trigger setting, the speed of the program, and the speed with which I played the chord (one note at a time) made a big difference in how it sounded, as opposed to the way it looked in the GE editor screen (it was more obvious in this screen than the data display screen.) Whether you want to edit the article is up to you.

btw - is "on the tin" a Britishism? Never "heard" it before (or else it's a typo.)

The second point, however, is incorrect, even in my version. The reason is obvious, simply by reading what I wrote - I set slider 1 at 0, not at 1, as you instructed. Duh… Sometimes I amaze myself that I can carefully read and re-read, and still #&^% up.

I'll also bold/caps KARMA, and spend some time this AM going through more of the article - more carefully, I hope.

Thank you very much for the kind comments — glad you like it.

I'm also glad you're checking it for accuracy. :) It's very likely I have made an error when transcribing what I did or which notes are generated/heard. If you'd like, give me a day to go through it and triple-check it. (I've just come back home from trip and I'm shattered.) If you're feeling impatient, you could try comparing the file I made for this tutorial to the one you made — I uploaded it here: http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19236 I think it set it up with some scene changes for the various parts of the tutorial … maybe. I forget.

(Also, friendly note: don't forget to put the word KARMA in all caps when writing it — pretty sure I saw SK mention that is how it should be written.)

Thanks again, and I'll get back to you on this shortly.

Jay

I'm pretty sure that I have the program set up correctly through part 1 (my rtc screen looks exactly as yours). In part 2, Note Type Mode 0: Regular, you say, "Now play a fourth together using C4 and F4. You should hear the note series playing C4, F4, C5, F5, C6, F6 and then back down." When I do that, the pattern is five notes, stopping at C6 and going back down.

Similarly, in Note Type Mode 1: Scalic 1, you say" This mode is your chord analysis mode, and it is also your one-finger chord mode. If you play only a single note (C4), it will essentially create a C-major chord for you, and then use that to generate a six-note scale as the note series." When I do that, (slider 1 set to 0) all I get is a three note pattern, C4, C5, and C6, up and down.

I'm not sure what's going on - whether I have set something up incorrectly, or whether there are some errors here. Can you check to be sure that, in the examples above, what you've posted is correct? I don't want to edit mistakenly, and I don't want to work further along only to find out that I've got something set up incorrectly.

Now that I think about it, perhaps I should send you the program for you to check it, if you have the time and are willing to do so. If so, give me your e-mail address.

Regardless, my thanks for all the hard work putting together this article, including sounds and pics. It's, in a word, wonderful. And greatly appreciated, as I think that Stephen has not had time to give us a real Karma education (like the video series, etc.).

Mark R

I was considering taking photos of the M3's screen (or perhaps the editor) for some sections because, in general, seeing an example could be easier to grasp for some than reading the text alone. In other articles here, I've put the images within a collapsible block to make the article "appear" cleaner and smaller.

A real pity that Shannon disappeared. He was doing a brilliant job on the wiki and helping people learn about KARMA — I've used the wiki extensively along with the House 101 vids, both have been a huge help. Anyway, I do hope Shannon is OK.

Regarding the article, and its length, I don't personally see a problem with it being so long. (Of course, I haven't gone through the whole thing.). Nevertheless, it seems to me that if it's all on the same subject, it's almost better to keep it in a single article. It's easy enough to read only those parts that you're interested in, and better than having it scattered in a number of different locations.

Thoughts? Issues? Anybody care?

J

Further to your edit here on the Bend on/off switch, it looks like there are 15 GE RTP in the Real-Time Bend GE (2090 in the M3)… I think, anyway…

parameters 16-30 are:
Bend: Amount
Bend: Alternation
Bend: Shape
Bend: Step Mode
Bend: Length
Bend: Start %
Bend: End %
Bend: Width %
Bend: Bend Range
Bend: Direction (RT)
Bend: Key Mode (RT)
Bend: Rel. Delay Length (RT)
Bend: Rel. Delay Damping (RT)
Bend: Vel. Range Bottom (RT)
Bend: Vel. Range Top (RT)

Parameter Name [1] = some parameter assigned in Phase 1 only
Parameter Name [2] = some parameter assigned in Phase 2 only
Parameter Name [B] = some parameter assigned in both Phases

For the [need number] sections of this article, I count 408 distinct GE RTPs that have been assigned to the all of the preset GEs. However, this figure may be fewer depending on how one counts them. For instance, are these RTPs to be counted separately or are they considered minor variations of only one RTP?

CCs: Fixed/On [1] —
CCs: Fixed/On [2] —
CCs: Fixed/On [B] —

If they are considered to be one RTP, then the figure is a little lower than 408. How should these be counted? For reference, below is a list of the distinct GE RTPs, which was extracted and filtered from the GE RTP info spreadsheet. I have assumed that some parameters with varying defined CC values (like Env: All Levels [1] 071 or 74) are only one RTP type so those variations are excluded from the list.

Just a note about my experience.

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18492

Regards,
-Stephen Kay, KARMA Developer

Thank you very much,
Michael M

Just one question:
Assuming I have done the changes as described in this article, and now want to save my work.
Do these changes affect the GE (and indirectly all programs/combis that refer to this GE), or do the changes only affect the current program/combi?

Best regards,
Juergen

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/m3

Use the "General Discussions" section. Thanks.

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/m3

Try "General Discussions M3".

This is for questions about the wiki. Thanks.

Here's the link

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From the page menu, select Save PCG. The Save PCG Data window appears.
In the To field, touch the T icon and specify a meaningful 8-character name for the PCG file that you're about to save.

In the Program section, touch the Selection icon and in the resulting window touch the Nothing icon to clear all of the checkboxes. (what program section? what selection icon??

Select the checkboxes for each program bank that you want to save to this PCG file, then touch the OK icon.
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I've actually not worked with SEQ mode all that much until recently, because sometimes it's just a pain to go grab the macbook, hook it up to the M3, and fire up DP or LIVE just to capture some sudden inspiration. I figured it was time to really dig into SEQ mode and get comfy with it for faster mockup of song ideas. One way I really learn something well is to try to describe it to others while I'm researching and experimenting and figuring out how to do the typical real-world things you'd like to do with a given functionality. I'm finding the RPPR feature and the ability to use SysEx tricks both to have some great applications for live work. I can't believe I've ignored RPPR for so long, lol.

Nice article, thanks as usual. I only skimmed it, but one thing to consider:

Combis have a very important advantage for live jamming (of the sort where you are actually doing everything in real-time), especially when using the KARMA function, or when performing real-time sound edits with the RealTime Control Mode of the Control Surface: anything you edit in a Song cannot be reset reliably, or easily. (You can try to use the COMPARE button, but this is flakey for this sort of operation that has nothing to do with actual editing of sequencer data.) Whereas, with a Combi, you just reselect it, and voila - back to the starting point. This can be especially important for rehearsing something over and over. With a song, you either need to reload it from backup, or recopy it from the original combi to get back to the starting point. This may not be a problem with a set list where you're moving in a linear fashion…

McHale, please can you review and correct this article? If you are happy with it, then please post the link to this Wiki in your forum thread. I don't want to steal your thunder … you are acknowledged at the bottom of the article. You are the pioneer who hit gold! Thanks again.

182 Trumpet Vibrato
187 Trombone Vibrato
192 Trombone Fall
193 Trombone SlurUp

Maybe these samples are modified/improved - in which case can we color them in Green with a different caption to make it clear that they are "improved samples" and not "added samples"? Or maybe it's just a mistake in the table and these entries are the same samples as before?

Thanks,
Rob

Thank you … actually you taught me something good - I had never used the "per page discussion" feature before, and I think it's a great way to correspond between contributors and have several people inputting to various edits etc. So I will use "per page discussions" again!!

Rob a.k.a. Rob :-)

Thank you very much for kind and comprehensive explanation. I agree the way you rearranged the page was more logical and generic. And since this was my first Wiki contribution I did not expect to get things right and was interested to get some tips and recommendations. Which I got. I also think I rushed a little a Wiki page immediately after solving an issue that I was fighting for several hours. It's better to wait a little, get a clear picture of what should be done and try to incorporate the information into existing structure.

Thanks again, and especially for your contribution to Wiki!

Vagif a.k.a. object

I did add comments in the Wiki comment field when doing the two edits earlier today. The information that you added is a valid and welcome contribution … but the method is not specific to Windows 7, it applies to all versions of the USB MIDI driver on Windows XP, and Vista as well. So the "tip" needed to be incorporated in the main procedures section, not as a new section. Also the simplest method to achieve the same result is to run the Korg USB MIDI "Install Device" function within the USB MIDI software package as per the Korg documentation. This is covered in a generic way in new procedure 1 on the page which makes the more complex and slower method that yopu described using "update device driver" and searching for the installation directory redundant. We cannot document it both ways and "occam's razor" unfortunately applies on all Wiki sites - always do it the simplest way and only resort to a more complex method if the simplest method fails. I apologise if any offense was caused, that's never my intention and quite the opposite as I hope my 2,000 or more posts on www.korg-forums.com will show you.

Also don't take it personally - my "offensive behaviour" as a Wiki contributor also applies to other contributions for example from Stephen Kay and Shannong who wrote the original page we have both bveen editing. For example, Shannong/ Stephen had originally written a complex and risky procedure about editing the windows registry to overcome the "10 MIDI device problem". I cut the whole thing and replaced it with the recommendation to use the Korg Uninstall utility which achieves the same result in a much simpler and safer way.

The same thing happens if Shannong or Stephen Kay or anyone else has an improvement to make - they never as permission first, they just do it if they are sure that it adds someting of benefit. Once again I apologize if my endeavours to simplify and correct this Wiki article inadvertently caused offense to you. Please advise me if I should have gone about it in a different way?

My thanks to you, and all contributors.

good sounds ok seaqencer internal.

perfect combis collection. fun to work with, easy to work with connection to laptop.

my experience with software is cubasis 4,0 and powertracks audio 9. am going to get the korg mw sofware to korg karma too. i reccomend it strongly. you can use the korg karma as a standard keyboard using the program mode, or you can use the combi mode where the fun beginn using this keyboard.. tha faq and manuals are heavy to read coming through, but stephen and others will help users of korg karma. the sudosonic.com has make a dvd for how using the korg karma reccomended. but with patients and take time using the korg karma you get a lot of fun and creative moments. there are several pdf to this korg karma on net. korg canada has some quick guide and easy start for the korg karma, and you find some video on the korg streamer video on the net. sudclavier tv has a demo of korg karma. search like this: sudclavier korg karma. ok hope this information could help any one out there using the korg karma or want to by one. search on the ebay for it. go for 700 to 1400 dollars.

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i am teaching in keyboard and piano and synth. hope some one here in this forum will share music with me, share experience working with korg karma, giving usefull tips for recording using laptop for example. right software. also want users of korg mw the software to korg karma and the experience of it. how its function and so on. so please write to me tell me share mp3 files from using korg karma.to me. ok waiting for contact with you out there. love my korg karma.
good sounds good combis, good at seaqencing, fun working with the ge,s and Karma.

ok take care for now on. hope to get answers soon. on my request.

from ivarbalade Norway. a user of korg karma.

On: F0 42 30 75 41 00 00 20 00 0A 00 00 00 00 01 F7
Off: F0 42 30 75 41 00 00 20 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 F7

The second last Byte is the on/off 01/00 part.

So typically, in external controller boxes that allow you to control sysex, there will be a way to enter the entire message shown above (which is in hexadecimal by the way), and somehow designate the last byte before the "F7" as being the variable byte.

For now, I've removed mention of the possibility of using sysex to turn the drum track on/off from that article. If anyone can figure out how to do this, please add it back to the article with the requisite details.

In the article Korg M3: Controlling KARMA and other M3 functions with a foot controller, down in the Tips section, there is a note that "There is no CC number that will turn the DRUM TRACK on/off, but you can use sysex to do this."

This bit came from a post by Stephen Kay on the Karma-Lab forums, in Korg M3: General Discussions in this thread: Using a Midi Foot Controller to trigger Pads, Latch, Karma on/off.

However, Stephen didn't describe how this would be done; only that "It's a bit more involved…"

It would be great to flesh out this article with the details on how you can control the DRUM TRACK on/off via sysex—where do you go in the M3 to see the sysex command you need to configure on the midi foot controller?